Got a Military Recruiter Horror Story?

Filmmaker Michael Moore has asked Americans for their health insurance horror stories. In Cincinnati, the Intercommunity Justice and Peace Center (IJPC) is taking a similar tack, but on a different issue. IJPC is asking students, parents, teachers, guidance counselors and others for their stories about encounters with aggressive military recruiters. E-mail your stories to kristen@ijpc-cincinnati.org or call Kristen or Julie at 513-579-8547.

— Gregory Flannery
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Comments

[Not the Mamma Cass!]

um why? Doesn't the improbably-named IJPC benefit from the protections afforded by a standing volunteer military?

[Sam Robinson]

Not the Mama Cass, whoever you are, please explain exactly how you believe the Intercommunity Justice and Peace Center benefits from the economically conscripted US war machine. Please explain not with a string of vague abstract nationalistic platitudes but in actual terms. If you don't want to sound stupid, it might help if you studied the IJPC's mission for a second or two rather than simply pounding another of your typically ignorant comments.
If you have time, I'd also be curious to know how it's accurate to characterize a military that's actively engaged in two separate unprovoked foriegn wars of aggression as "standing"? "Running for their lives" military or "sitting ducks" military might seem a more apt descriptor, given the absurdly mishandled status of the two currently ongoing Bush wars of choice.

[Not the Mamma Cass!]

Typically ignorant comments? Try: thoughtful, considered, informed, honest, reasoned, nonpartisan, pithy.

Sam: unlike certain sometime freelance writers for weekly news alternatives, our enlisted men and women understand they are not in-it-for-themselves mercenaries who put personal agendas before the common and greater good. They are part of a command and control organization from which they take their orders and to which they pledge their fidelity of duty (hope that isn't too vague or abstract for you: you do appear to struggle with conceptual thinking (like Bush: how ironic!)).

Do you honestly fault the troops for Bush's policy decisions? Yes, of course you would. By analogy it's your fault CityBeat gave Kathy Wilson column space.

A standing army means its always organized not just cobbled together when needed. Are you that literal?

Unless IHOP's mission is undermining the American Way, it might consider moving operations to Cuba or Venezuela and try openly criticizing the government there. Let's see how long that lasts.

Speaking of people who would benefit from a little running, pause, Sam?

[Marilyn]

I was hoping to hear a couple of the horror stories here, but apparently not gonna happen.

The recruiting commercials that have surfaced on TV since this bullshit war started are horrific in themselves.

[Not the Mamma Cass!]

"hoping to hear a couple of the horror stories here"?

Why, to confirm your paranoia that the exception is the rule?

Are you that person who slows to look at a traffic accident "hoping to see dead people"? You're a pathological piece of shit.

[Marilyn]

NTMC: No, I don't hope to see dead people. I wouldn't go into the hospital room where machines kept my dead son's organs alive. His death did save five other people, for what that's worth.

Horror stories such as this: My stepson was recently interested in joining the National Guard. In talking to my stepson, the recruiter swore on his mother that no more National Guard would ever be sent to Iraq. Quote from the recruiter: "They have too many forces there now."

This was right before Bush's "surge". The recruiters use lies, much as Bush did to push his war agenda on an already panicked America.

NTMC, you need to know of whom you speak before you call them a "pathological piece of shit." You show your ignorance.

[Action News]

Speaking of Michael Moore, wasn't there a part of his movie "Bowling For Columbine" that featured military recruiters hitting up poor kids in blighted urban areas with promises of cash and power?

[Marilyn]

Action News, here's an interesting website: http://www.militaryfreezone.org/

The website tells teens and their parents that they can opt out of being actively recruited. The paragraph that follows explains what really happens.

In the USA, under the No Child Left Behind Act, if you attend a high school that receives federal funding your school system is required to turn over your private information to the U.S. military for recruitment purposes! (With the exception of a few private schools, almost every school in the USA receives federal funding.) Your school is NOT required to tell you that they are giving your private information to the military.

[Sam Robinson]

INRE "Not the Mamma Cass!" (Is it Papa Cass?)

One of the most annoying things about lying right wing trolls like "Papa" Cass is, well, they lie. It goes without saying, I know, and normally I would let it/him go on lying without my saying anything, without feeding the troll. But Papa's lying about me here. Some of Porkopolis blog's readers may know me, so I will reply -- even at the risk of feeding this Papi troll.

Not the Mamma/Papa Cass Troll pulls this lie out of his own ass: "Do you honestly fault the troops for Bush's policy decisions?" I said no such thing, not here, not anywhere else, not last week, not ever. It's a stupid thing to say. Readers should know this lie was said by a stupid blog troll calling itself "Not the Mamma Cass!" Don't quite get what Kathy Y. Wilson has to do with any of this, not that anyone cares.

A less stupid or less lazy troll than Not the Mamma/Papa Cass could've flamed what I said here or could have responded without lying. But lying and lazy, it's just who these freaks are.

[Not the Mamma Cass!]

Marilyn: I'm sorry for your loss, but again, don't make the exception the rule and seek to contextualize what you describe your stepson said was his experience by making the problem appear larger than it may be.

Sam: I've seen you. You're in no position to describe anyone else as a troll or freak.

[Marilyn]

NTMC, if you were to go to the website I provided (above), you would begin to see that the scenario described by my stepson is not the exception. It's rapidly becoming all too common.